Comments on: When Thinking Out Of The Box, You Might Just Want To Think In The Box http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/ Jump In, The Water's Fine Wed, 16 May 2012 15:49:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Non-Competes, Health Insurance and Other Ugly Limits To Innovation | Frog Blog http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-2220 Non-Competes, Health Insurance and Other Ugly Limits To Innovation | Frog Blog Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:41:44 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-2220 [...] Limits and creativity run in the same circles. [...] [...] Limits and creativity run in the same circles. [...]

]]> By: Daniel Richard http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-1008 Daniel Richard Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:50:29 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-1008 This is a huge post! The one that stood out was the one about "knowing the rules first before you can break them". It is the new game that you wanna play after knowing the rules and then playing around with them. Great stuff here Fred! .-= Daniel Richard´s last blog ..<a href="http://thedanielrichard.com/2009/09/never-doubt-yourself/" rel="nofollow">NEVER Doubt Yourself!</a> =-. This is a huge post! The one that stood out was the one about “knowing the rules first before you can break them”.

It is the new game that you wanna play after knowing the rules and then playing around with them.

Great stuff here Fred!
.-= Daniel Richard´s last blog ..NEVER Doubt Yourself! =-.

]]> By: LaVonn http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-985 LaVonn Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:35:31 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-985 I really do enjoy your perspective. Working in a university setting I like to forward your blog to faculty for a new twist on things. I am still waiting on the book.... I really do enjoy your perspective. Working in a university setting I like to forward your blog to faculty for a new twist on things. I am still waiting on the book….

]]> By: Fred H. Schlegel http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-919 Fred H. Schlegel Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:27:46 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-919 Thank you J.D., The ability to create a closed, or at least manageable system for testing seems really important to me. I like seeing the tires being kicked on new ideas as quickly as possible for that learning to occur. Thank you J.D., The ability to create a closed, or at least manageable system for testing seems really important to me. I like seeing the tires being kicked on new ideas as quickly as possible for that learning to occur.

]]> By: Fred H. Schlegel http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-918 Fred H. Schlegel Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:24:07 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-918 Hi Bill, Finding another box is actually an interesting way to think about what is going on. Something to explore! Hi Bill, Finding another box is actually an interesting way to think about what is going on. Something to explore!

]]> By: Fred H. Schlegel http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-917 Fred H. Schlegel Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:23:23 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-917 Thank you Karen. I'm going to look more closely at research around the Great Depression. I've seen anecdotal evidence of creative sparks during recent economic upheavals and so I know it happened, it would be nice to get a feel for how influential it was for prosperity in the 50s. Thank you Karen. I’m going to look more closely at research around the Great Depression. I’ve seen anecdotal evidence of creative sparks during recent economic upheavals and so I know it happened, it would be nice to get a feel for how influential it was for prosperity in the 50s.

]]> By: Fred H. Schlegel http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-916 Fred H. Schlegel Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:16:02 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-916 Very cool. I've been thinking and reading a bit about this 'flaw' in education. I'm thinking that understanding how that spark gets driven out will give clues on how to free up thinking as adults. I think it could be interesting to hear how you were able to break through with the kids and what kind of resistance you ran into as you took them away from their comfort zones. I like to believe that the burying creative impulses is more of a subconscious thing that happens in response to time pressure and feelings of security, but maybe it's more overt than that. Is a class full of creative spirits more difficult to manage than a class of drones? I don't know. So many of histories geniuses were misfits in some way I've got to think we're missing something. Very cool. I’ve been thinking and reading a bit about this ‘flaw’ in education. I’m thinking that understanding how that spark gets driven out will give clues on how to free up thinking as adults. I think it could be interesting to hear how you were able to break through with the kids and what kind of resistance you ran into as you took them away from their comfort zones. I like to believe that the burying creative impulses is more of a subconscious thing that happens in response to time pressure and feelings of security, but maybe it’s more overt than that. Is a class full of creative spirits more difficult to manage than a class of drones? I don’t know. So many of histories geniuses were misfits in some way I’ve got to think we’re missing something.

]]> By: J.D. Meier http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-915 J.D. Meier Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:01:02 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-915 I agree - boxing is the secret of results. In security, it's comparmentalizing problems. In information, it's creating a closed system to predict, test, and learn. In life, it's boxes of time to drive choices, or boxes of space, for saftey, comfort or focus. Beautiful points with precision .... - you need to know the rules - creativity to be at its most powerful when there is an obstacle present. - Strategy requires picking sides. - Unlimited Choice vs A Choice Few. - Unlimited Time vs Time Constraints. - Unlimited Customization vs Clear Upgrade. > Creating boundaries and limits is not the same thing as limited thinking. Rings true. .-= J.D. Meier´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SourcesOfInsight/~3/k9jdz4fa6J0/" rel="nofollow">6 Personality and Work Environment Types</a> =-. I agree – boxing is the secret of results. In security, it’s comparmentalizing problems. In information, it’s creating a closed system to predict, test, and learn. In life, it’s boxes of time to drive choices, or boxes of space, for saftey, comfort or focus.

Beautiful points with precision ….
- you need to know the rules
- creativity to be at its most powerful when there is an obstacle present.
- Strategy requires picking sides.
- Unlimited Choice vs A Choice Few.
- Unlimited Time vs Time Constraints.
- Unlimited Customization vs Clear Upgrade.

> Creating boundaries and limits is not the same thing as limited thinking.
Rings true.
.-= J.D. Meier´s last blog ..6 Personality and Work Environment Types =-.

]]> By: Bill Welter http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-912 Bill Welter Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:22:13 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-912 Fred, Stunning interestng post. I've also had some success with getting people to think in other boxes when they don;t want to think outside of their own box (which is darn hard). Cardboard creativity is a great metaphor for what we should be doing more of. Cheers, Bill Fred,
Stunning interestng post.
I’ve also had some success with getting people to think in other boxes when they don;t want to think outside of their own box (which is darn hard).
Cardboard creativity is a great metaphor for what we should be doing more of.
Cheers,
Bill

]]> By: Karen Swim http://frogblog.biz/2009/08/25/when-thinking-out-of-the-box-you-might-just-want-to-think-in-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-911 Karen Swim Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:38:34 +0000 http://frogblog.biz/?p=1654#comment-911 Fred, excellent deep dive into this concept of creativity. Those who lived through the Great Depression know very well that scarcity breeds innovation. I applaud you for turning commonly accepted wisdom on its head and proving the fallacy of out of the box thinking. Certainly there is a place for brainstorming, free flow thought but when it comes time to build you need to know if you're constructing a circle, box or diamond! .-= Karen Swim´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/WordsForHire/~3/5Tbm6Bhu4WI/" rel="nofollow">How Bulletproof is Your Reputation?</a> =-. Fred, excellent deep dive into this concept of creativity. Those who lived through the Great Depression know very well that scarcity breeds innovation. I applaud you for turning commonly accepted wisdom on its head and proving the fallacy of out of the box thinking. Certainly there is a place for brainstorming, free flow thought but when it comes time to build you need to know if you’re constructing a circle, box or diamond!
.-= Karen Swim´s last blog ..How Bulletproof is Your Reputation? =-.

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